I tend to agree with you. Have you come across Day Star's page on the 2,300 days at http://www.wake-up.org/daystar/ds1998/AUG98A.htm? There is an interesting discussion relating to using the Jubilee calendar to infer various things about the year/day principle. I'd be really interested in your or anyone else's comments.
I teach Sabbath school once per month, and it fell to me to teach on Daniel 8, and Daniel 10-11. After studying the Quarterly in detail, I simply determined to teach on Dan. 8 and 11 by asking very difficult (read "unanswerable") questions, with a goal of getting folks to study it for themselves--IN DEPTH. By asking questions, no one felt terribly threatened, but they were certainly challenged. I made and passed out several handouts that simply compared and contrasted the verses of the chapters in context, and compared the prophetic texts with their angelic explanations. You could have heard a pin drop. My conscience would allow no less.However, after much study in the matter (particularly after last quarter's Sabbath school lesson) I realize that I can't honestly accept the traditional Adventist interpretation anymore.
tall73 wrote:My summary is that elements of the presentation make it sound more like God is throwing out guesses than telling the end from the beginning, and this disturbs me.
2 t chap 29
Jesus has left us this warning: "Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the Master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: lest coming suddenly He find you sleeping." The church of God is required to fulfill her night watch, however perilous, whether long or short. Sorrow is no excuse for her to be less watchful.
DA chap 40
Until the fourth watch of the night they toiled at the oars. Then the weary men gave themselves up for lost. In storm and darkness the sea had taught them their own helplessness, and they longed for the presence of their Master.
Mark 13:35 "Watch therefore, for you do not know when the master of the house is coming -- (1) in the evening, (2) at midnight, (3) at the crowing of the rooster, or (4) in the morning."
Ellen G. White wrote:The waiting ones were represented to me as looking upward. They were encouraging one another by repeating these words: "The first and second watches are past. We are in the third watch, waiting and watching for the Master's return. There remains but a little period of watching now."
tall73 wrote:I would take it to mean that we are in the latest part of the night, and it has taken a long time.
tall73 wrote:Until the fourth watch of the night they toiled at the oars.
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