Jesus in Matthew 4 is talking to the Pharisees and the Ruling party the Sadducees

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Jesus in Matthew 4 is talking to the Pharisees and the Ruling party the Sadducees

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"ALL TRUTH, CAN ONLY BE FOUND IN MESSIAH." HIS FAITH IN US enables us to believe his words. IN MESSIAH dwells his GOD and FATHERS word. His GOD and FATHERS doctrine (teaching). JONH 7:16-17... Jesus answered them and said, ‘My teaching is NOT mine, but HIS who sent (commissioned) me; if any one may will to do HIS will, he shall know concerning the teaching, whether it is of GOD, or—I do speak from myself. JOHN 20:17b “... I (Jesus) ascend unto my FATHER, and your FATHER, and to my GOD, and to your GOD.” PSALMS 33:6 By the word of Yahweh were the heavens made; and all the HOST of them (SUN, MOON AND STARS) by the breath of His mouth (spirit).
TRUTH found in the FATHERS anointed, was replaced with ERROR, stemming from Judeo-Christianity (pagan religion) and the traditions of men (synagogue/church) and OUR misunderstanding of what the scriptures teach: The reason being, bible translators give us their version of the Hebrew, Aramaic & Greek texts, NOT necessarily a literal translation, but their biased opinion of what they believe to be true (mans doctrine). Take the capitalisation of words for instance, which gives the reader a false impression of the authors original intent; Changing word into Word (Person) or changing devil into Devil (Person) or changing satan into Satan (Person) doesn’t help anyone seeking truth: Most people take for granted that the bible they are reading is TRUE and without ERROR. Take the KJV ONLY believers, they insist that their KJV bible is the ONLY bible that is inspired by God and has NO ERROR. For that statement to be TRUE, that would mean Yahweh’s doctrine is FALSE and His word is NOT found in us. The KJV and most other translations that people use, IS what the authors state it to be, a VERSION and not a TRANSLATION...
SATAN
Ministers quote Rev. 12 about the "war in heaven” and “the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan...” and insist that “satan” is a “fallen angel.” But, in verse 3 that “satan” has “seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.” That is the SAME seven headed “beast” upon which Mystery Babylon rides in Rev. 17 and there it is quite plain — it is a conglomeration of nations! They say the “war” in Rev. 12 was fought in God's “heaven,” but, in verse 1, we find the “woman clothed with the sun,” was, also, in “heaven.” The woman is Israel, and Israel is (and was) on the earth, so the “heaven” of Rev. 12 is on the earth, also! These 2 facts: (1) The “satan” of Rev. 12 is identical to the "kings" (nations) of Rev. 17, and (2) the "heaven" of Rev. 12 is where Israel is, absolutely rules out Rev. 12 as being about any supernatural, omnipresent, fallen angel. The "satan" of the Churches cannot be found in Rev. 12. The truth about "satan" is nothing short of ASTOUNDING. The satan of the churches is as real as the hell of the churches!

1. The title “Lucifer” appears only once in the Bible and it is a mistranslation! Even then, the passage is plainly addressed to a mortal man who is identified and told he is going to die soon! Yet that passage has been used for centuries by “the clergy” to expound about an old archangel called “Lucifer!”
2. “Devil” is not in the Old Testament at all.
3. “Devils” (plural) is used 4 times and only in reference to idols of wood and stone. It does not refer to any “living” thing.

*See for yourself what Yahweh ALONE teaches about angels/demons/spirits/ghosts/gods/Idols. Please consider link below “Angels & Demons”

file:///C:/Users/Bills%20pc/AppData/Local/Packages/microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe/LocalState/Files/S0/285/Attachments/Angels_Demons[2305843009293039399].pdf

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sonofYah- wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:24 am
file:///C:/Users/Bills%20pc/AppData/Local/Packages/microsoft.windowscommunicationsapps_8wekyb3d8bbwe/LocalState/Files/S0/285/Attachments/Angels_Demons[2305843009293039399].pdf
That file is on your own computer. Only you can see it. It's not a clickable link. If you want others to see it, try uploading it to Google docs.

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Sorry about that;
https://benwilliamslibrary.com/pdfs/Angels_Demons.pdf
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sonofYah- wrote:
Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:24 am
Ministers quote Rev. 12 about the "war in heaven” and “the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan...” and insist that “satan” is a “fallen angel.” But, in verse 3 that “satan” has “seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.” That is the SAME seven headed “beast” upon which Mystery Babylon rides in Rev. 17 and there it is quite plain — it is a conglomeration of nations! ... The “satan” of Rev. 12 is identical to the "kings" (nations) of Rev. 17, and (2) the "heaven" of Rev. 12 is where Israel is, absolutely rules out Rev. 12 as being about any supernatural, omnipresent, fallen angel.
Matthew 4:10
Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”


Who was Jesus talking to? A fallen angel or a conglomeration of nations? I have never heard of anyone claiming that Satan is omnipresent.

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Any unbiased scholar will tell us then, that the Greek word must represent and be defined by the Hebrew meaning of the word. Therefore, the Satan in the New Testament is informed by the sawtawn of the Old Testament. That leaves us with some pretty clear conclusions on what a satan and a demon are. Context shows that satan, demons, devils, and unclean spirits are several things, And one of those things is not the supernatural entities Christendom has suggested they are. We find the satan of the Bible to be; an adverse person, an adverse situation, a physical illness, a mental infirmity, a false teacher of false doctrine, an erroneous belief or false doctrine, a person who is a deceiver, a person who opposes God’s plan or another person, and yes, even God Himself is at times the sawtawn. So we see that Yahshua was indeed tempted in the wilderness, but God’s spirit sent Him there to be tested. In the entire ministry of Yahshua, there were no stronger adversaries than the religious leaders. We see that Yahshua was tested by these satans on many occasions and it was these jealous, pride filled, and tenacious scrutineers who would test the Messiah because they had an obligation to test any figure who appeared on the scene and was said to be a candidate for Messiah.

The satan and demon possession of the Gospels was no more than false doctrines, false teachers, mental illness, physical affliction, adversarial men, and persecuting oppressive government. You could be a satan, I could be a satan, my thinking, my friend, my religion, or my government can be a satan.

QUESTION:- Why does the noun sawtawn get translated as a NAME by scholars when translating out of the Hebrew?
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Eugene Shubert wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2019 2:22 pm
Matthew 4:10
Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”


Who was Jesus talking to? A fallen angel or a conglomeration of nations? I have never heard of anyone claiming that Satan is omnipresent.
What's going on in Matthew 4?

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Persian dualism, a view of two Gods (POLYTHEISM) in the cosmos battling for supremacy, was carried out of Persia with the repatriated Hebrew people in the 6th Century BC. A Greek takeover filled the Persian idea of a lesser evil God with all the myth and lore of the Greek pantheon. Greek theology brought us to the Satan we have in our minds today. What Did The Persians, Greeks, And Pharisees Bring Us? These Pharisees, the most derisional of religious sawtawns ever, brought their doctrine of Satan to Christianity. A look back at their journey and connections with Persia shows how the Pharisees were raised up by Persian Magi from Farsi. As spiritual children of Persian magicians, the power hungry Pharisees stole the idea of an evil lesser God and forced it into the life of the Jerusalemites under their care. As the group most responsible for guiding religious thought in the centuries after leaving Persia, the Pharisees were able to instruct the masses in the ways of Satan (Demonology/Angelology). The sequel to their epic move was even more subtle, because of the Hellenization of a people which allowed Greek ideas to fill the holes in an oddly unbiblical doctrine of Satan. Voila, Satan was then given to the Christians and we now have the Greeks to thank for that...

Jesus was talking to the religious leaders of the day the Pharisees and the Ruling party the Sadducees, They were the satans (adversaries) of Messiah. They were the blind teachers who quoted scripture to try to trap and find fault his every word...

*If you are a spiritual being, that means you are immortal. Which means you cannot die...
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