Quantum Creationism, Does God play dice with light and matter?
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Shubee Newcomer Joined: Sep 29th, 2008 Posts: 1 Group: Members Age: 55 Christian Creationist Richardson, Texas |
Part 1. Rethinking Creationism - Is It Possible to Remake Creationism into A Scientific Theory? It is plainly obvious to me, and perhaps to many thoughtful observers, that the most recent incarnation of Christian creationism, called Intelligent Design, has been a terrible failure. [1][2]. As a Millerite Christian, I'm particularly angered by how frequently fundamentalist Christians malign scientific truth and the true Christ. Truth that is controversial can't be authenticated using political force or underhanded Gestapo tactics but only through humility, transparency and genuine academic freedom. I believe it's clear that scientific theory is to be vindicated by strong evidence and logical reasoning, not by masterfully manipulating naive public opinion. The many attempts by the Intelligent Design movement to push creationism into biology classes in public schools, by appealing directly to legislatures and boards of education, while essentially sidestepping the scrutiny of the scientific process [3], is characteristically Antichristian. The colossal failure of the Intelligent Design movement to rationally defend their approach to science with hard evidence and inescapable logic compels me to point out that Christianity is divided into a fantastic number of sects, with widely conflicting creeds and theories. Fortunately, Babylonian science will be overthrown. There are many true Christians that believe in true science. My understanding of the creation-evolution debate is that respectable creationists have valid criticisms of Darwinian evolution but don't have a scientific alternative when asked. As I see it, the single most insurmountable problem with ID and all forms of fundamentalist creationism, is the insistence that God is the agent in the creation process. That's automatically against the established rulebook in the game called science. This is the ruling of secular courts: According to the currently accepted principles of science, Intelligent Design isn’t science. The winning argument in Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District et al states the scientific consensus admirably: Science can only accept natural explanations, never supernatural ones. QUOTE This
rigorous attachment to “natural” explanations is an essential attribute
to science by definition and by convention. (1:63 (Miller); 5:29-31
(Pennock)). We are in agreement with Plaintiffs’ lead expert Dr.
Miller, that from a practical perspective, attributing unsolved
problems about nature to causes and forces that lie outside the natural
world is a “science stopper.” (3:14-15 (Miller)). As Dr. Miller
explained, once you attribute a cause to an untestable supernatural
force, a proposition that cannot be disproven, there is no reason to
continue seeking natural explanations as we have our answer. Id. ID is predicated on supernatural causation, as we previously explained and as various expert testimony revealed. (17:96 (Padian); 2:35-36 (Miller); 14:62 (Alters)). ID takes a natural phenomenon and, instead of accepting or seeking a natural explanation, argues that the explanation is supernatural. (5:107 (Pennock)). It is notable that defense experts’ own mission, which mirrors that of the IDM itself, is to change the ground rules of science to allow supernatural causation of the natural world, which the Supreme Court in Edwards and the court in McLean correctly recognized as an inherently religious concept. Edwards, 482 U.S. at 591-92; McLean, 529 F. Supp. at 1267. First, defense expert Professor Fuller agreed that ID aspires to “change the ground rules” of science and lead defense expert Professor Behe admitted that his broadened definition of science, which encompasses ID, would also embrace astrology. (28:26 (Fuller); 21:37-42 (Behe)). Moreover, defense expert Professor Minnich acknowledged that for ID to be considered science, the ground rules of science have to be broadened to allow consideration of supernatural forces. (38:97 (Minnich)). Are there any scientifically trained creationists here who would like to consider an acceptable theory of creationism that obviously comports to the fundamental principles of science? My suggestion may seem heretical to theists but I do have a theory of origins that does not presuppose an Intelligent Designer. -------------------- Isn't it amusing that physicists are able to
pontificate eloquently about the specific nature of physical reality
and believe that they are about to figure out how the universe exploded
into existence out of nothingness but are totally confused about
fundamental questions in quantum mechanics?
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